Sorry for the non-stream, but Raz felt sick so we couldn't make it. Bluh. We'll see if any other opportunities arise.

Otherwise, work on stuff has been going fine. Been working on flash mostly, but also helped out a friend with his project. I need to draw mroe this last week if I want to get those halloween thingies I've got planned done in time, too. Shouldn't be too difficult.

And like I said last week, I made a new Zu. The old one felt pretty dated style-wise, and the project file is pretty horrible to work with; it was the first one I did. I've gotten a whole lot more efficient with these types of drawings now, I managed to finish the nude version in a few hours pretty much.
New Zu Profile Image.

I've tried to make her a little smaller, she's supposed to be rather short after all. It's almost the same pose, but from the front, as you can see. I'm pretty happy with the result, but I'll try to be open to feedback.

That's all I have to show. I'm feeling rather tired, so I shall go to bed. It's been all rainy and cozy today, so I think it'll be a nice sleep.
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Chris5685 wrote:
Rock Candy wrote:
Chris5685 wrote:
Rock Candy wrote:
Chris5685 wrote:
It might be because you changed the artstyle, but Zu's eyes feel a bit too big and rounded, she looks like those "how humanity will look like in x years" pictures. Her mouth also feels too wide compared to the size and shape of her face. Have you deliberately lenghtened her face, or it just happened during the design process? Also, I miss her cheeks, her face looks a bit flat without them. The next thing I noticed is that her hands and feet are a bit big compared to the other parts of her body. She looks like an early teen going through a growth spurt, the pic on the header of your website is the closest thing to an actual short young adult in terms of proportions. I found such changes in the other profile pics too, but this is the first one that feels so radically different from before. The most interesting thing is that in your hand drawn pictures you very rarely make such mistakes or changes, I literally went through like ten pages of your artworks to check, and even the cartoon logic porn scenes look like actual people in terms of proportions.
With her "eyes", do you mean just her irises? Because the eyes in whole aren't really different from the usual.
Her head length is the same as usual. Not sure what makes you think it's longer? The mouth is an exaggerated smile, I don't think making it smaller would turn out well.

I suppose her hands and feet might be a little large, but that's not difficult to change. The only thing I can see myself is the hand up in the air is too large at least. I've always been told I draw hands and feet too tiny, are you sure it's just not you being used to that? My drawing style keeps changing, still.

You're saying that all of my profile images have odd proportions? I'd like some more elaboration on that and some of these points.

I draw these on paper before I color them. So the mistakes that show up here are made beforehand too.
No, not her irises, but her pupils. They are too big compared to her iris and the size of the actual eye. Also she used to have her eyes more squared on the lower end, but that is a design choice I can live with.

About the head lenght: I imagined her cheeks a bit more puffy, wide and round based on previous works you have done, maybe that's why she feels different now, flat compared to previous renditions. Or maybe because of the perspective. I don't really have a problem with her smile now that I stared at her for a few minutes, it just feels like 12 pixels too long on the right side than how I'd draw her if I could.

Hands and feet: my biggest issue is her right hand. It's the furthest one from the observer, but it's the biggest. Otherwise her proportions look exactly like my niece when she was 12, a thin frame with relatively "big" hands and feet. I don't agree with people who said that you make too small hands and feet, their size fits with the character's stature. She's an adult, she may have had size 36 feet when she was 14, but then her body got some nice curves without her feet and hands growing. "Donner's done her" and "Where am I?" are both good examples on spot- on proportions for Zu, at least in my opinion.

About profile images: I don't know what kind of process you use for coloring, but it definitely makes them look artificial, especially Za and Ellie. That's why I differentiated your daily, uncolored drawings from their actual profile pictures. I thought that you did those completely on a computer. "Demonic Sofi colored" feels much easier on my eyes, it's the best example I can refer to. Another thing that I just realised while going through your library of pictures is that you don't use black lines on the character's bends and outlines in their profile pics. Those give a nice contrast to show off their bodies and emphasize smaller details, while keeping a hand drawn feel to them (which is a very important factor for me).

That's about it.
Irises, pupils, part of the same thing.

Ye, the bump on the cheek has slowly been shrinking with time. I don't like the look of it, so it has become near nonexistent.

Zu is still supposed to be rather short and thin, only a measy 1.60. But ye, I didn't really like how the hand turned out anyway. Don't see too much problem with the size of the feet, though. Maybe the one up in the air, but the grounded one seems OK to me.

That's something that I can't avoid. Drawing on paper will always make them seem more natural. When I digitalize them I don't want to keep the hand drawn look, I completely redraw the scanned image in flash. Using black outlines makes it more difficult to make out different objects and what ends where, which I want to avoid. Using colored outlines helps differenciating things.
Never mind dude, it's just a diference in taste then, no big deal. She's still the same lovely little lady, no matter how you draw her.
It's good to get feedback nonetheless.
Rock Candy wrote:
Chris5685 wrote:
Rock Candy wrote:
Chris5685 wrote:
It might be because you changed the artstyle, but Zu's eyes feel a bit too big and rounded, she looks like those "how humanity will look like in x years" pictures. Her mouth also feels too wide compared to the size and shape of her face. Have you deliberately lenghtened her face, or it just happened during the design process? Also, I miss her cheeks, her face looks a bit flat without them. The next thing I noticed is that her hands and feet are a bit big compared to the other parts of her body. She looks like an early teen going through a growth spurt, the pic on the header of your website is the closest thing to an actual short young adult in terms of proportions. I found such changes in the other profile pics too, but this is the first one that feels so radically different from before. The most interesting thing is that in your hand drawn pictures you very rarely make such mistakes or changes, I literally went through like ten pages of your artworks to check, and even the cartoon logic porn scenes look like actual people in terms of proportions.
With her "eyes", do you mean just her irises? Because the eyes in whole aren't really different from the usual.
Her head length is the same as usual. Not sure what makes you think it's longer? The mouth is an exaggerated smile, I don't think making it smaller would turn out well.

I suppose her hands and feet might be a little large, but that's not difficult to change. The only thing I can see myself is the hand up in the air is too large at least. I've always been told I draw hands and feet too tiny, are you sure it's just not you being used to that? My drawing style keeps changing, still.

You're saying that all of my profile images have odd proportions? I'd like some more elaboration on that and some of these points.

I draw these on paper before I color them. So the mistakes that show up here are made beforehand too.
No, not her irises, but her pupils. They are too big compared to her iris and the size of the actual eye. Also she used to have her eyes more squared on the lower end, but that is a design choice I can live with.

About the head lenght: I imagined her cheeks a bit more puffy, wide and round based on previous works you have done, maybe that's why she feels different now, flat compared to previous renditions. Or maybe because of the perspective. I don't really have a problem with her smile now that I stared at her for a few minutes, it just feels like 12 pixels too long on the right side than how I'd draw her if I could.

Hands and feet: my biggest issue is her right hand. It's the furthest one from the observer, but it's the biggest. Otherwise her proportions look exactly like my niece when she was 12, a thin frame with relatively "big" hands and feet. I don't agree with people who said that you make too small hands and feet, their size fits with the character's stature. She's an adult, she may have had size 36 feet when she was 14, but then her body got some nice curves without her feet and hands growing. "Donner's done her" and "Where am I?" are both good examples on spot- on proportions for Zu, at least in my opinion.

About profile images: I don't know what kind of process you use for coloring, but it definitely makes them look artificial, especially Za and Ellie. That's why I differentiated your daily, uncolored drawings from their actual profile pictures. I thought that you did those completely on a computer. "Demonic Sofi colored" feels much easier on my eyes, it's the best example I can refer to. Another thing that I just realised while going through your library of pictures is that you don't use black lines on the character's bends and outlines in their profile pics. Those give a nice contrast to show off their bodies and emphasize smaller details, while keeping a hand drawn feel to them (which is a very important factor for me).

That's about it.
Irises, pupils, part of the same thing.

Ye, the bump on the cheek has slowly been shrinking with time. I don't like the look of it, so it has become near nonexistent.

Zu is still supposed to be rather short and thin, only a measy 1.60. But ye, I didn't really like how the hand turned out anyway. Don't see too much problem with the size of the feet, though. Maybe the one up in the air, but the grounded one seems OK to me.

That's something that I can't avoid. Drawing on paper will always make them seem more natural. When I digitalize them I don't want to keep the hand drawn look, I completely redraw the scanned image in flash. Using black outlines makes it more difficult to make out different objects and what ends where, which I want to avoid. Using colored outlines helps differenciating things.
Never mind dude, it's just a diference in taste then, no big deal. She's still the same lovely little lady, no matter how you draw her.
Joshyua wrote:
Rock Candy wrote:
Ker Anon wrote:
Rock Candy wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Joshyua wrote:
New Zu looks great, though her nipples seem a to stick out a bit too much. Just my opinion though.
I agree, they look rather silly
It is intentional. I'vve been drawing them like that for quite a while now.
I think the others point might be that, those same nipples you have drawn that way before now feel somewhat off due to the change in her proportions, they don't seem to mesh very well with the new whole...
Because I made her a little smaller? I don't get it...
Now that I look at your other drawings, it's not that the nipples are too long, but that they seem thicker at the tip than the base. Still, just my opinion. Keep up the amazing work!
It's sort of a stylistic choice, I guess. They give her more of a soft cartoony look, I guess? Rather than making them be nubby, almost spiky.
Superzero wrote:
I think the issue some viewers may be having is that her face seems much skinnier and her breasts are smaller, which makes all of her proportions seem off when compared to the old Zu. Personally, I have no problem with this new look. The small breasts with the perky nipples look very nice (I wouldn't mind giving them a nice squeeze).
I suppose, I'm not very good at staying consistent, haw haw!

I've always wanted to draw her small and short, but I'm not good at drawing small and short people in general. She's always turned out larger than I imagine her to be.
Chris5685 wrote:
Rock Candy wrote:
Chris5685 wrote:
It might be because you changed the artstyle, but Zu's eyes feel a bit too big and rounded, she looks like those "how humanity will look like in x years" pictures. Her mouth also feels too wide compared to the size and shape of her face. Have you deliberately lenghtened her face, or it just happened during the design process? Also, I miss her cheeks, her face looks a bit flat without them. The next thing I noticed is that her hands and feet are a bit big compared to the other parts of her body. She looks like an early teen going through a growth spurt, the pic on the header of your website is the closest thing to an actual short young adult in terms of proportions. I found such changes in the other profile pics too, but this is the first one that feels so radically different from before. The most interesting thing is that in your hand drawn pictures you very rarely make such mistakes or changes, I literally went through like ten pages of your artworks to check, and even the cartoon logic porn scenes look like actual people in terms of proportions.
With her "eyes", do you mean just her irises? Because the eyes in whole aren't really different from the usual.
Her head length is the same as usual. Not sure what makes you think it's longer? The mouth is an exaggerated smile, I don't think making it smaller would turn out well.

I suppose her hands and feet might be a little large, but that's not difficult to change. The only thing I can see myself is the hand up in the air is too large at least. I've always been told I draw hands and feet too tiny, are you sure it's just not you being used to that? My drawing style keeps changing, still.

You're saying that all of my profile images have odd proportions? I'd like some more elaboration on that and some of these points.

I draw these on paper before I color them. So the mistakes that show up here are made beforehand too.
No, not her irises, but her pupils. They are too big compared to her iris and the size of the actual eye. Also she used to have her eyes more squared on the lower end, but that is a design choice I can live with.

About the head lenght: I imagined her cheeks a bit more puffy, wide and round based on previous works you have done, maybe that's why she feels different now, flat compared to previous renditions. Or maybe because of the perspective. I don't really have a problem with her smile now that I stared at her for a few minutes, it just feels like 12 pixels too long on the right side than how I'd draw her if I could.

Hands and feet: my biggest issue is her right hand. It's the furthest one from the observer, but it's the biggest. Otherwise her proportions look exactly like my niece when she was 12, a thin frame with relatively "big" hands and feet. I don't agree with people who said that you make too small hands and feet, their size fits with the character's stature. She's an adult, she may have had size 36 feet when she was 14, but then her body got some nice curves without her feet and hands growing. "Donner's done her" and "Where am I?" are both good examples on spot- on proportions for Zu, at least in my opinion.

About profile images: I don't know what kind of process you use for coloring, but it definitely makes them look artificial, especially Za and Ellie. That's why I differentiated your daily, uncolored drawings from their actual profile pictures. I thought that you did those completely on a computer. "Demonic Sofi colored" feels much easier on my eyes, it's the best example I can refer to. Another thing that I just realised while going through your library of pictures is that you don't use black lines on the character's bends and outlines in their profile pics. Those give a nice contrast to show off their bodies and emphasize smaller details, while keeping a hand drawn feel to them (which is a very important factor for me).

That's about it.
Irises, pupils, part of the same thing.

Ye, the bump on the cheek has slowly been shrinking with time. I don't like the look of it, so it has become near nonexistent.

Zu is still supposed to be rather short and thin, only a measy 1.60. But ye, I didn't really like how the hand turned out anyway. Don't see too much problem with the size of the feet, though. Maybe the one up in the air, but the grounded one seems OK to me.

That's something that I can't avoid. Drawing on paper will always make them seem more natural. When I digitalize them I don't want to keep the hand drawn look, I completely redraw the scanned image in flash. Using black outlines makes it more difficult to make out different objects and what ends where, which I want to avoid. Using colored outlines helps differenciating things.
Rock Candy wrote:
Ker Anon wrote:
Rock Candy wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Joshyua wrote:
New Zu looks great, though her nipples seem a to stick out a bit too much. Just my opinion though.
I agree, they look rather silly
It is intentional. I'vve been drawing them like that for quite a while now.
I think the others point might be that, those same nipples you have drawn that way before now feel somewhat off due to the change in her proportions, they don't seem to mesh very well with the new whole...
Because I made her a little smaller? I don't get it...
Now that I look at your other drawings, it's not that the nipples are too long, but that they seem thicker at the tip than the base. Still, just my opinion. Keep up the amazing work!
I think the issue some viewers may be having is that her face seems much skinnier and her breasts are smaller, which makes all of her proportions seem off when compared to the old Zu. Personally, I have no problem with this new look. The small breasts with the perky nipples look very nice (I wouldn't mind giving them a nice squeeze).
Rock Candy wrote:
Chris5685 wrote:
It might be because you changed the artstyle, but Zu's eyes feel a bit too big and rounded, she looks like those "how humanity will look like in x years" pictures. Her mouth also feels too wide compared to the size and shape of her face. Have you deliberately lenghtened her face, or it just happened during the design process? Also, I miss her cheeks, her face looks a bit flat without them. The next thing I noticed is that her hands and feet are a bit big compared to the other parts of her body. She looks like an early teen going through a growth spurt, the pic on the header of your website is the closest thing to an actual short young adult in terms of proportions. I found such changes in the other profile pics too, but this is the first one that feels so radically different from before. The most interesting thing is that in your hand drawn pictures you very rarely make such mistakes or changes, I literally went through like ten pages of your artworks to check, and even the cartoon logic porn scenes look like actual people in terms of proportions.
With her "eyes", do you mean just her irises? Because the eyes in whole aren't really different from the usual.
Her head length is the same as usual. Not sure what makes you think it's longer? The mouth is an exaggerated smile, I don't think making it smaller would turn out well.

I suppose her hands and feet might be a little large, but that's not difficult to change. The only thing I can see myself is the hand up in the air is too large at least. I've always been told I draw hands and feet too tiny, are you sure it's just not you being used to that? My drawing style keeps changing, still.

You're saying that all of my profile images have odd proportions? I'd like some more elaboration on that and some of these points.

I draw these on paper before I color them. So the mistakes that show up here are made beforehand too.
Smaller feet are better! I like it when my cock is longer than a woman's foot, then I stick it up her butt!
I think the issue of her long head wpuld be because the proportions and long of her sideburns and bangs,if the bangs weren't in an angle.more than 45° the thing if the proportion of her body would be solved reducing the head
Rock Candy wrote:
Chris5685 wrote:
It might be because you changed the artstyle, but Zu's eyes feel a bit too big and rounded, she looks like those "how humanity will look like in x years" pictures. Her mouth also feels too wide compared to the size and shape of her face. Have you deliberately lenghtened her face, or it just happened during the design process? Also, I miss her cheeks, her face looks a bit flat without them. The next thing I noticed is that her hands and feet are a bit big compared to the other parts of her body. She looks like an early teen going through a growth spurt, the pic on the header of your website is the closest thing to an actual short young adult in terms of proportions. I found such changes in the other profile pics too, but this is the first one that feels so radically different from before. The most interesting thing is that in your hand drawn pictures you very rarely make such mistakes or changes, I literally went through like ten pages of your artworks to check, and even the cartoon logic porn scenes look like actual people in terms of proportions.
With her "eyes", do you mean just her irises? Because the eyes in whole aren't really different from the usual.
Her head length is the same as usual. Not sure what makes you think it's longer? The mouth is an exaggerated smile, I don't think making it smaller would turn out well.

I suppose her hands and feet might be a little large, but that's not difficult to change. The only thing I can see myself is the hand up in the air is too large at least. I've always been told I draw hands and feet too tiny, are you sure it's just not you being used to that? My drawing style keeps changing, still.

You're saying that all of my profile images have odd proportions? I'd like some more elaboration on that and some of these points.

I draw these on paper before I color them. So the mistakes that show up here are made beforehand too.
No, not her irises, but her pupils. They are too big compared to her iris and the size of the actual eye. Also she used to have her eyes more squared on the lower end, but that is a design choice I can live with.

About the head lenght: I imagined her cheeks a bit more puffy, wide and round based on previous works you have done, maybe that's why she feels different now, flat compared to previous renditions. Or maybe because of the perspective. I don't really have a problem with her smile now that I stared at her for a few minutes, it just feels like 12 pixels too long on the right side than how I'd draw her if I could.

Hands and feet: my biggest issue is her right hand. It's the furthest one from the observer, but it's the biggest. Otherwise her proportions look exactly like my niece when she was 12, a thin frame with relatively "big" hands and feet. I don't agree with people who said that you make too small hands and feet, their size fits with the character's stature. She's an adult, she may have had size 36 feet when she was 14, but then her body got some nice curves without her feet and hands growing. "Donner's done her" and "Where am I?" are both good examples on spot- on proportions for Zu, at least in my opinion.

About profile images: I don't know what kind of process you use for coloring, but it definitely makes them look artificial, especially Za and Ellie. That's why I differentiated your daily, uncolored drawings from their actual profile pictures. I thought that you did those completely on a computer. "Demonic Sofi colored" feels much easier on my eyes, it's the best example I can refer to. Another thing that I just realised while going through your library of pictures is that you don't use black lines on the character's bends and outlines in their profile pics. Those give a nice contrast to show off their bodies and emphasize smaller details, while keeping a hand drawn feel to them (which is a very important factor for me).

That's about it.
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